If derek and casey never get together would you mind if derek and sally got together?
yes
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no
43%
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maybe
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dasey1424 Dasey Newbie
Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 42
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: sally
okay so i am generally curious as to the reasons why people seem to hate sally so much. and yes i realize that she has derek but besides that what is there? believe me i want dasey as much as the next person but derek and sally are good together.
tell me what you think! when you vote plz tell me why you think that way.. and dont say because derek and casey are suppossed to be together! i want real reasons.. thanks!
Sally's a little too...perfect. She's like the Mary-Sue of Life with Derek.
She's smart, pretty, she doesn't take Derek's crap, she can cook, shee gets along with the family. It just seems too forced to me.
We don't just hate Sally because of Dasey, I myself remember I have composed a list comparing her to the other LWD characters on level of Mary Sue ness, and the results are seriously disappointing.
PinkJelly wrote:
For some odd reason, this made me really hate Sally, maybe even more than Max, which was like impossible. Why? Because she just seems so perfect. LWD, unlike many other shows, have fantastically realistic characters that are relatable and flawed., then out of nowhere comes Miss perfect "I'm blonde and smart and perfect, I'm sally", as opposed to the other flawed people in the show like..:
Derek - Control freak, selfish, slacker, heartbreaker etc...
Edwin - Uncool, failing at trying to be cool, sport challenged etc...
Lizzie - not girly, pushover by casey, etc...
George and Nora - Forgetful and oblivious, etc...
Max -( too many to count, I am convinced that the writers wrote him in the script just to piss people off) Uncaring, unaffectionate, freaky, ken doll looking, etc...
Noel - Unable to dance, shy, arrogant, a chicken.
Sally - uh... I got nothing...
Even characters like Noel, who was only in one episode, was flawed, but oh no, not sally, she has to be absolutely perfect, seriously, she's like the barbie doll or something... :x *Light bulb flash on head* Since Max is eerily like Ken and Sally is eerily like Barbie, maybe in the last episode of LWD they can get together and ride on a plastic pony on the sunset to malibu and live in a orange beach house, leaving the world of lwd forever so casey and derek can make out/kiss each other senseless...
However, that is just my opinon, so if you like sally and don't agree with me then it's ok, just please refrain from throwing anything wilder than my thumb at me, thank you!
PinkJelly wrote:
You are totally right about the relatable factor, which brings me to Sally, she has NO flaws at all, she's perfect, she's the sun, the moon and the stars. I don't think I have seen such a blatant Mary Sue since the last time I flamed a Mary Sue HP story. Seriously, what is so interesting about her? Is it because she's pretty? Casey is too. Is because she is smart? Casey is too. Is it because she resisted Derek's charms? Casey did too. Is it because Derek is much nicer around her? Casey totally win on this one, because all the character development we've seen on Derek from now to season 1 can all one way or another, be related to Casey. See? She's practically a replica of Casey, except Casey can actually MAKE DECISIONS, and have some realistic flaws, whereas Sally could pass for a live Barbie. LWD has once been a show really great in character depth, you can sense the character's demensions without them putting too much details, so I am really disappointed in them. I hope in season 4, Sally gets at least ONE flaw, back hair, smelly armpits, bad breath in the morning, I'LL TAKE ANYTHING.
Um...So yeah. _________________ "... I know that love is unconditional. But I also know that it can be unpredictable, unexpected, uncontrollable, unbearable and strangely easy to mistake for loathing."
I agree with what everyone else said. She's too perfect, too meh. Does she have a negative personnality trait? Really? If so, please inform me, because there is none that I cant think of.
I don't know why, but I hate Sally. I LOATHE Dally. They don't have a lot of chemistry.... Just... nah.
While her perfectness bugs me, I think it was certain scenes that did it for me, particularly in "Derek Un-Done" and "Derek's School of Dating."
In "Derek Un-Done," I hated how she gave him mixed signals. I'm sorry, but she knew what she was doing. Otherwise, she's an idiot.
Also, in "Derek's School of Dating," her apology rubbed me the wrong way.
Sally: It was ... *rolls eyes* ... wrong.
Am I really supposed to like her after that? And although I liked the kiss (because, well, it is Derek), I didn't like how he just accepted the apology.
Should I add that the whole "Derek's nicer around Sally" line is completely wrong? He was rude at the dinner (manners and arguing) she attended in 'Derek Un-Done." What is Casey seeing that we're not? Because Casey is the one who has made him a nicer person. Not Sally.
I tend to think Casey's just in denial there. The line doesn't work otherwise. _________________
What if...... Sally and Casey become good friends. From everything we've seen I think maybe its a possibility.
Gah! I hope not. I want sally out of the picture.... although the Sally/Casey vid I just watched..... meh, if you cant have dasey, you cant have Cally.
What if...... Sally and Casey become good friends. From everything we've seen I think maybe its a possibility.
Gah! I hope not. I want sally out of the picture.... although the Sally/Casey vid I just watched..... meh, if you cant have dasey, you cant have Cally.
True. But you don't think it's cute? Not even a tiny, itty, wittle bit? *puppy eyes* _________________ "I said I was an <i>addict.</i> I didn't say I had a <i>problem.</i>"
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject:
Oh God I can't STAND these two together at all. Not one bit, and I found the kiss from Derek Undone quite honestly, VERY forced. No offense if there are any Dally fans in here. The problem with Sally and Derek in my opinion, is that they are just too much alike. Sally is practically the female Derek. They are mismatched because unlike Dasey, they don't balance each other out. They're too much alike to be anything more then friends.
As far as Sally goes though - I love her. She's the first female character (other then of course Casey) who hasn't fallen all over herself in the presence of Derek, and by rejecting him the first time, she helped Derek to grow a little in realizing that he doesn't always get what he wants. In fact, she's the first potential love interest of Derek's that has an actual *gasp* personality. I'm glad she'll be back for this season, though I hope her scenes with Derek won't last long. It would be a waste to keep her as only a love interest for Derek when they could do more with her. I'd personally love to see her with Sam or even Max.
i dont HATE Sally. she just annoys the ever loving spit out of me.
she flings around like Mary Sunshine. which confuses me because i would never think that Derek would go for someone that annoyingly perfect.
eh. i just...have mixed feelings about her.
but i definitely dont ship Dally. YUCK.
i agree with eveyone. she is PERFECT.
and not in a good way.
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-( too many to count, I am convinced that the writers wrote him in the script just to piss people off) Uncaring, unaffectionate, freaky, ken doll looking, etc...
Since Max is eerily like Ken and Sally is eerily like Barbie, maybe in the last episode of LWD they can get together and ride on a plastic pony on the sunset to malibu and live in a orange beach house, leaving the world of lwd forever so casey and derek can make out/kiss each other senseless... 
