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snoopy87
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 Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: Sally Theories |
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Most of the Dasey fandom is currently annoyed with Sally's presence right now. But making a recent post got me to thinking. Could there be a reason for Sally's current controlling and needy nature?
As seen in "Derek's School of Dating," Derek is quite distracted by Casey. So much that he dismisses Sally when she's around.
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Sally becomes more controlling and needy of Derek. She volunteers him for events, and asks for him to express his feelings towards her. Wasn't Sally supposed to be the cool and collected girl last season? The one who was "like a guy, but all woman?"
Maybe Sally senses that Casey is a big distraction to Derek, and is trying to get his entire focus on her, and not Casey. Her close friendship with Casey is just a way of shoving it in Casey's face that Derek is hers.
I'm probably totally reaching here, but it seemed like a fun story arc in my head. It would also explain Sally's current behavior.
Anybody else have some theories?
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I have a theory that Sally is just an annoying bitch who played it cool so she could Tap Derek. But now that she has him... She can be even more obnoxious than Casey. Derek will drop her booty like a hot tomale.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Sally Theories |
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| snoopy87 wrote: | Most of the Dasey fandom is currently annoyed with Sally's presence right now. But making a recent post got me to thinking. Could there be a reason for Sally's current controlling and needy nature?
As seen in "Derek's School of Dating," Derek is quite distracted by Casey. So much that he dismisses Sally when she's around.
END SEASON 3 ... OPEN SEASON 4 ...
Sally becomes more controlling and needy of Derek. She volunteers him for events, and asks for him to express his feelings towards her. Wasn't Sally supposed to be the cool and collected girl last season? The one who was "like a guy, but all woman?"
Maybe Sally senses that Casey is a big distraction to Derek, and is trying to get his entire focus on her, and not Casey. Her close friendship with Casey is just a way of shoving it in Casey's face that Derek is hers.
I'm probably totally reaching here, but it seemed like a fun story arc in my head. It would also explain Sally's current behavior.
Anybody else have some theories? |
I agree. What do you me when you say Derek being distracted by Casey? do you mean like her bugging him or him seeing her and marching up to talk to her? All Sally wants is for Derek to be focused on her all the time and not anyone else. She is really pushing this relationship and making things harder for the both of them which in the end will cause Derek to break up with her or him asking Casey to call it off. She is constantly telling Derek what to do and asking him to do things so he can stay away from Casey. I don't like her at all just because of the way she is and how she is becoming so controlling that its not even funny. All of this is basically to get Casey ticked off so she will stay away from Derek and vise versa.
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Daseyrulesall
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: Re: Sally Theories |
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| snoopy87 wrote: | Most of the Dasey fandom is currently annoyed with Sally's presence right now. But making a recent post got me to thinking. Could there be a reason for Sally's current controlling and needy nature?
As seen in "Derek's School of Dating," Derek is quite distracted by Casey. So much that he dismisses Sally when she's around.
END SEASON 3 ... OPEN SEASON 4 ...
Sally becomes more controlling and needy of Derek. She volunteers him for events, and asks for him to express his feelings towards her. Wasn't Sally supposed to be the cool and collected girl last season? The one who was "like a guy, but all woman?"
Maybe Sally senses that Casey is a big distraction to Derek, and is trying to get his entire focus on her, and not Casey. Her close friendship with Casey is just a way of shoving it in Casey's face that Derek is hers.
I'm probably totally reaching here, but it seemed like a fun story arc in my head. It would also explain Sally's current behavior.
Anybody else have some theories? |
I agree so much with what you are thinking about Sally. The minute I aw Sally demanding Derek volunteer for him to help around the house and with Marti I wondered too where the "like a guy but all woman" girl went. I don't understand how Derek can stand being around her, if he didn't have any character development and still was season 1 Derek he would have not put up with this behavior.
I'm thinking that Sally saw what a threat Casey was when she had dinner with the McDonald/Venturi family in "Derek Un-done". Which is why she started sending Derek mixed signals because although she told him she only wanted to be friends she subconsciously started flirting with him because she saw how close Derek was to Casey. She didn't want to lose him to Casey so she put herself out there without really thinking. Then to show that Casey does have competition she formed an alliance (later turned friendship of sorts) with her. To kind of show Casey that she is interested in Derek and she doesn't plan on going anywhere.
A part where I can see Sally showing off to Casey about her and Derek's relationship is when she tells Casey as soon as she enters Smelly Nellie's that Derek wrote her a song and starts to sing it to her. I mean I can see how excited she may be to have a song written for her but there was no reason to actually have to sing the song. It's like she was hoping Casey would be jealous of her. Could you imagine if Sally saw Casey eat some of the pie off Derek's face? haha. Oh which also brings me to believe (although this could really be pushing it) that Sally got mad at Derek for stealing Casey's song not because he didn't write it but because the song was about a boy Casey knows and she thought it could have been about Derek? Very interesting.
It's like Casey and Sally are secretly enemies with how their interaction is right now. So far in the fourth season Casey has already mentioned a few times how much she knows Derek, like in the first episode where Sally is annoyed at how Derek is and Casey just brushes it off knowing how he is and accepts it. Then in the second episode where she knows that Derek had Edwin steal the song so he could say that he didn't steal it.
Also it was discussed here but for the life of me I can't find the thread it was in, but Kate (Sally) did an interview where she was talking about how her character was brought in to shake things up or whatever. So maybe in that she meant that her character was getting in between Derek and Casey? I can't really see how else her character would "shake things up" unless it was to come between Dasey.
Wow. I just talked A LOT. It's good to have LWD back in my life.
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Catty, catty girls.
Yeah, I'm also guessing that Sally's so used to having everything focus on HER, she couldn't stand it that Derek focuses on Casey way more than he does on herself, so she purposely tries to make Casey jealous so she would back off. However, people who do that never gets satisfied when the other DOES back off, so that could be a dally break up scenario? Sally has this whole competitive spirit about her, so maybe that's all it is to her, a competition? It sure seems like it. It's also probably why Sally was so mad that Derek didn't write the song, because she thought she won. Haha, guess again, Miss Blondie!
There was actually a really good fic that summed up all these theories, it's called Problems of A Weak Man by driter, and I think it captures the nature of Derek, Sally, and Casey's relationship perfectly. Click here to read it. It's good.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It's like Casey and Sally are secretly enemies with how their interaction is right now. So far in the fourth season Casey has already mentioned a few times how much she knows Derek, like in the first episode where Sally is annoyed at how Derek is and Casey just brushes it off knowing how he is and accepts it. Then in the second episode where she knows that Derek had Edwin steal the song so he could say that he didn't steal it. |
It's like the saying goes:
Keep your friends close, and your emenies closer... 
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Bluerow wrote: | | Quote: | | It's like Casey and Sally are secretly enemies with how their interaction is right now. So far in the fourth season Casey has already mentioned a few times how much she knows Derek, like in the first episode where Sally is annoyed at how Derek is and Casey just brushes it off knowing how he is and accepts it. Then in the second episode where she knows that Derek had Edwin steal the song so he could say that he didn't steal it. |
It's like the saying goes:
Keep your friends close, and your emenies closer... |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Sally Theories |
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| Daseyrulesall wrote: | | It's like Casey and Sally are secretly enemies with how their interaction is right now. |
They're frenemies. 
| Quote: | | Also it was discussed here but for the life of me I can't find the thread it was in, but Kate (Sally) did an interview where she was talking about how her character was brought in to shake things up or whatever. So maybe in that she meant that her character was getting in between Derek and Casey? I can't really see how else her character would "shake things up" unless it was to come between Dasey. |
Or... OH! I just thought of something! What if the future Dally break up is due to Sally's jealousy of Casey and Derek's own relationship? What if SHE breaks up with DEREK because she thinks something is going on between them? And she'll bring it up TO Derek (and anyone else present) and that's how the season ends? With him realizing he may or may not be in love with Casey?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Sally Theories |
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| Lady Azura wrote: | | Daseyrulesall wrote: | | It's like Casey and Sally are secretly enemies with how their interaction is right now. |
They're frenemies.
| Quote: | | Also it was discussed here but for the life of me I can't find the thread it was in, but Kate (Sally) did an interview where she was talking about how her character was brought in to shake things up or whatever. So maybe in that she meant that her character was getting in between Derek and Casey? I can't really see how else her character would "shake things up" unless it was to come between Dasey. |
Or... OH! I just thought of something! What if the future Dally break up is due to Sally's jealousy of Casey and Derek's own relationship? What if SHE breaks up with DEREK because she thinks something is going on between them? And she'll bring it up TO Derek (and anyone else present) and that's how the season ends? With him realizing he may or may not be in love with Casey?
*Sigh*
Though I liked my other theory better... the one where Derek kisses Casey to shut her up and she goes to vent to Paul and has an epiphany there. XD |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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^ I like both of your theories. I would kill for one of them to happen...seriously. Okay, maybe no seriously, but you catch my drift.
I wish Derek and Sally would break up already. Sally is starting to bug me with her personality flip-flop. Does she have split personalities or what? When we first saw her, was she just trying to be something she's not or what?
Gaaaah!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Sally Theories |
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| Lady Azura wrote: | | Daseyrulesall wrote: | | It's like Casey and Sally are secretly enemies with how their interaction is right now. |
They're frenemies.
| Quote: | | Also it was discussed here but for the life of me I can't find the thread it was in, but Kate (Sally) did an interview where she was talking about how her character was brought in to shake things up or whatever. So maybe in that she meant that her character was getting in between Derek and Casey? I can't really see how else her character would "shake things up" unless it was to come between Dasey. |
Or... OH! I just thought of something! What if the future Dally break up is due to Sally's jealousy of Casey and Derek's own relationship? What if SHE breaks up with DEREK because she thinks something is going on between them? And she'll bring it up TO Derek (and anyone else present) and that's how the season ends? With him realizing he may or may not be in love with Casey? |
That's what I am thinking too and when she mentions it, he probably denies it saying "No pssshhhh yeah right" or something like that. How do you think she would find out? She could be like "Derek, are you in love with Casey?" and then he has flashbacks of her and realizes he loves her more then he thought he did. This would cause an argument with her stating the obvious and him talking back. Yeah I agree he should realize he loves Casey in the season finale or the second to last episode so they could end up becoming a couple.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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yeah. you basically reached into my skull and said everything i was thinking.
i have made the exact assumption. she is constantly rubbing it in Casey's face what Derek is doing/has done for her.
i definitely sense jealousy. because as much as Derek/Casey fight,
they are much closer than they were in the beginning because of their history, which Sally has like...what? Three episodes worth? |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| xmiseryx2 wrote: | yeah. you basically reached into my skull and said everything i was thinking.
i have made the exact assumption. she is constantly rubbing it in Casey's face what Derek is doing/has done for her.
i definitely sense jealousy. because as much as Derek/Casey fight,
they are much closer than they were in the beginning because of their history, which Sally has like...what? Three episodes worth? |
Maybe Sally will notice the way Derek looks at Casey when they are up on stage or just making eye contact, maybe she will realize how much Derek talks about her and how she is the only person in his mind, maybe she will see the way they interact with words and how close they are sitting or standing next to each other, or Derek will do something for Casey and he would blurt out something like this "I've never done anything like this for a girl before" and sally would be like "Oh really" and then Derek would say "I didn't mean it the way it sounded" and then she could ask him to meet her somewhere so they can talk and the first thing she should say is "what was that all about?" and he would be like "What are you talking about?" and then she replies "Don't act like you don't know what I mean." and then he should be like "No, I seriously don't" and then sally should say "Well maybe then you should explain the dynamic of your relationship with Casey." and Derek replies "Is this about you?" and Sally should say "No it's about you being in love with Casey which clearly I can see you are." Derek should say "What made you draw to that conclusion." then Sally should say "Oh please like you don't know, I saw the way you looked at Casey and how close you were to her." Derek should say "We were just performing and moving in different directions, whats the matter with that?" Sally should say "The way you two do that is really not a brotherly-Sisterly way?" then Derek should say "We do this all the time and you just noticed now?" then sally should say "This is the day it became so obvious."
Derek replies "Listen to me I don't love Casey." Sally should say "I want you to look me in the eyes and tell me that is the honest truth?" Derek says "I can't" and Sally says "I am obviously not what you are looking for, you need to open your eyes and see what's right in front of you." Derek replies "Wait a minute are you breaking up with me?" Sally says "Looks like I am but only because you don't realize you love her." Derek says "How many times do I have to say I am not?" Sally replies "You can say it as many times as you want but I won't fall for it."
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