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Desperately Seeking Super Sikorsky


 
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Cap'n Tony



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Desperately Seeking Super Sikorsky Reply with quote

Greetings all,

I've been lurking here the past few days and think you all might be able to help.

I'm writing a speculative fiction story involving the proposed but never built Sikorsky S-45, a six-engined behemoth on the Late 631 & SaRo Princess scale, first proposed to Juan Trippe in the late 30's.

So far all I can dig up, other than what I mention above, is the following:

http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1939/1939%20-%201006.pdf

Of course that picture alone is a work of majesty; if whales have angels I imagine they'd look like that.

Do any of you know any good resources on this could-have-been beauty?

V/R,

Cap'n...
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Mr Widgeon



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try a search of the Patent Office archives.
There are a lot of "paper airplanes" there.
Try :

http://www.google.com/advanced_patent_search

and enter your search query.
HTH.
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Cap'n Tony



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Widgeon wrote:
You could try a search of the Patent Office archives.
There are a lot of "paper airplanes" there.
Try :

http://www.google.com/advanced_patent_search

and enter your search query.
HTH.


Turned up a goose-egg there, I'm afraid. Valiant idea, though.

Did find some interesting new Sikorsky engine and flight control ideas, but nothing filed on the S-45.

To be honest I don't think the idea went past the "Hey Juan, check out this drawing of a new clipper design" stage.

It's possible what I posted is all we have.
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Cap'n Tony



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE

I have received correspondence from a docent at the Smithsonian Air & Space museum archives. He was kind enough to send me a copy of an article by Igor Sikorsky from the Nov 1938 issue of Aero Digest detailing the advantages of large-scale flying boats. I will get back to the docent and ask about reproduction and release rights of the article, and if possible post a scan.

Some interesting tidbits included "sneak peek" artist's renditions of the passenger accommodations and lounge. The latter puts most coffee houses to shame. In the article Mr. Sikorsky talks about the incredible amount of passenger space that "will be required for transoceanic travel" ("at least 12 cubic meters per passenger"Wink. As someone who just traveled trans-Atlantic 8 hours cattle-class middle-seat on "Untied" (name changed to protect the guilty) I'd have killed for a mere third of that.

Hopefully more to come...
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libelle



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a discussion about it here...

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3243.0/highlight,sikorsky+s-45.html

but it doesn't offer much more.
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Cap'n Tony



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every little bit helps, thanks, libelle.
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Cap'n Tony



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE

Made contact with the Sikorsky Archives and they have several original concept drawings and an article on the S-45.

I'm looking in to acquiring said and also checking on distribution rights to see what if anything I can share here.

No promises, but I'll share what info I can.
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Hillbilly



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any luck? According to Wikipedia the VS-45 (S-45) was deigned for Pan-Am but never built.
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Cap'n Tony



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the Sikorsky Archives were very helpful. I got copied of some blueprints and concept designs for "next generation" super clippers (no set designation at that point; the S-45 designation is "in dispute"Wink.

Unfortunately my "rights" are for own-use only and not for distribution or publication. Sad

So I can't share them here. Confused

But they are AMAZING. Cool

Hints: two passenger stories and a third "crew level", central hallways, sealiner-style state rooms, a luxurious full bar and dining room/lounge, etc.
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Artie Bob



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Sikorsky Mockup Reply with quote

Last night, was looking through the 1940 issues of Aviation magazine. There is one photo of the cockpit area of a Sikorsky flying boat mockup. I would think this was a little late for the VS-44. It is not too great, but if you are interested will try to scan it and post.

Best Regards,

Artie bob
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Cap'n Tony



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love to see it! Very Happy
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